Voice of the Child Conference #VOTC2k16

Yesterday was the Family Justice Young People’s Board’s annual conference, the Voice of the Child. Unfortunately even with an early start I missed the very beginning of the conference and walked in not long before a young person, Matthew was telling his story of aspergers.

The young person explained that professionals need to be patient and use appropriate language, it’s all well and good explaining something to a young person but it becomes pointless if they do not understand, just as it is pointless getting annoyed when you are asking questions in a way they cannot comprehend. Some of the other suggestions are, in my opinion, more about common decency such as not talking over them, waiting for them to answer, do what you say you are going to, and treating them age appropriately.

Now Matthew’s story reached a few people in the audience at the conference, but in my mind this is how you should work with any young person. If an adult did not understand what you were saying then you would not start talking to them slowly as if they were a baby, you would not talk over someone telling a story, and you shouldn’t promise to do something you are not going to. In it’s most basic form you should be treating everyone how you would wish to be treated, and just because someone has a disability it does not mean that you treat them any differently.

After a short break it was time for me and my team to present our session ‘The national picture for children and young people in the family court’. Before we spoke a member of the FJYPB spoke about how the number of applications for private and public proceedings have increased year  over year, and how the courts have become more stretched, although Elizabeth Gibby, Deputy Director of Family Justice Policy, did state that judges did want to meet with the young people involved in their cases. It was also revealed that a photograph of them would be provided to the judge so that they can see the young person they are deciding on, and that young people would be shown the judge deciding their case even if they could not meet with them.

As you can probably imagine, when it was our time to step up to the stage we talked about the transparency research we had conducted with Dr Julia Brophy, and our recently released examples of good practice. I will admit I went on a bit of a rant against the media having their own agenda, and BAILII’s disclaimer being of little to no protection for those concerned as the information is still searchable. Although BAILII itself is not indexed by search engines extracts are still published on the likes of Family Law which is.

This judgment was delivered in private. The judge has given leave for this version of the judgment to be published on condition that (irrespective of what is contained in the judgment) in any published version of the judgment the anonymity of the children and members of their family must be strictly preserved. All persons, including representatives of the media, must ensure that this condition is strictly complied with. Failure to do so will be a contempt of court.

We reviewed that identifiers should be avoided at all costs, and that the level of detail of sexual abuse is obtrusive and unnecessary. One of the young people who helped deliver our session asked a few basic questions, such as what did you have for breakfast and what colour socks do you have, to some intrusive ones, such as has your mother stopped drinking and has your dad stopped beating you, in order to demonstrate how these kinds of questions are uncomfortable and often unnecessary for the public at large to know. From speaking to a few people during the lunch break I think our message was well received. We also mentioned how the President, Sir James Munby, has asked us to continue being involved in the evaluation process of what ever guidance he produces and to deliver sessions at a few key conferences for the judiciary [mainly the President’s and Judges’ Conferences].

Our facilitator from the FJYPB then asked participants “how can agencies improve communication with children and young people in the current climate?” before breaking for lunch. (You may be able to make out some of their answers on the linked picture)

After lunch we played a special version of Family Fortunes to wake people up, it also got us to think about what the FJYPB thought on a range of matters such as what is the best way to communicate with young people, what is the most important thing young people worry about during family proceedings, and what is the best way young people think they can be heard during those proceedings.

The next session was somewhat disappointing, yet eye opening, with a question time panel consisting of Jane Robbie [Chief Executive of National Family Mediation], Anthony Douglas [Chief Executive of CAFCASS], Adam Lennon [Head of Family Modernisation and Improvements, HMCTS], Khadija Lewis [Chair – FJYPB Member], HHJ Lesley Newton [Senior Circuit Judge, Designated Family Judge, Manchester County and Family Court], Dr Elizabeth Gibby [Deputy Director of Family Justice Policy, Ministry of Justice], and Albert Heaney [Director of Social Services and Integration, Welsh Government].

The first announcement, from Adam Lennon, was that the Courts and Tribunal Services are investing £1 Bn in updating IT and communication, including their websites to make them easy to navigate and understand. The current websites of HMCTS are managed under the .gov.uk domain meaning that they are centrally managed, although government services tried to make these accessible they still leave a lot to be desired. He also stated that a new website was being tested, and has received feedback from a panel of people with different access needs, meaning that it will hopefully be much improved when the new site goes live.

Dr Elizabeth Gibby stated that the MoJ are planning to deliver direct information to young people through web and mobile platforms, this still does not address the need of young people without internet access or who do not wish to engage through digital means. HHJ Lesley Newton mentioned that engagement with young people is important and should be considered an important step in a case, indeed Lady Hale mentioned the same point in her key note speech at the 2015 ALC conference.

Jane Robbie mentioned that it is difficult for mediation services to engage with young people where one or both of the parents object to their involvement, but should they be able to object to a young person not having a voice in decisions affecting their  lives? Isn’t that a breach of their Article 12 rights? [Yes.]

She also mentioned that it can be difficult to talk to a young person on a one to one basis, in my opinion this demonstrated the need for a young person to have access to an advocate during proceedings in order to ensure that their view is heard. It was stated that a social worker has to fill in a box during court proceedings stating what they think the young person wants, but there is a huge risk that they will be projecting their own views or professional stance, an advocate is independent of such risks and should be engaged. Also the question was raided should young people be able to apply for mediation, this is one way to ensure that they get a voice in proceedings.

Questions were also raised as to whether a child needs to be provided updates to their case, who should do it, how often should they occur, can it be damaging to give them too much information. This goes back to Mattew’s speech, a young person should be engaged in the process, it isn’t a question of Gillick competencies, it is a question of Articles 3, 4, 5, 9, 12, and 13. A Young Person should be made aware of what is happening in relation to them, it  will be down to each individual case as to who is appropriate to give them this information, and how often. Again this is a job which advocates have been doing day-in-day-out, and enforces the need for such an individual to be involved in a case. The information needs to be proportionate and in a way in which the young person understands.

When the panel was asked who has best practice in engaging with young people many of us felt they copped out by saying CAFCASS, the hosts of the conference, it was only Jane Robbie who actually stated that it would depend on the situation and needs of the young person concerned. My answer was obviously NYAS.

A young person also asked the panel why they wasted so much money on consultations rather than using common sense. Not one person gave an answer, they were quite political in their answers, and in the end the young person gave up on getting an actual answer.

Unfortunately because of train scheduling we missed the rest of the conference, but overall I think it was a good experience and that delegates got the message. Talking one-to-one with some of them they were very aware of the issues and wanted to go back to their respective organisations and make changes or improvements.

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Safeguarding, Privacy and Respect for Children and Young People (Part 8)

Apologies for not updating my blog for quite a long time but I have been busy with my dissertation ‘Media in the Family Courts: A Critical Analysis’, graduating, moving, starting a new job, starting a new university, helping with another paper [discussed below], and general life.

So here’s what you are here to learn about, our draft guidance on the anonamysation of judgements. In my opinion this was wrongly reported in Family Law as ‘Draft guidance published on anonymisation of children judgments’ as it could just as easily be applied to vulnerable adults, and others requiring the protection of anonymised judgements.

Again our research was funded by the Nuffield Foundation and supported by the Association of Lawyers for Children. This document has already been supported by the President of the Family Court Division, although it has not yet be judicially approved.

For those of you hard up for time there is an executive summary, but for the hard core of you there is a full document which finally has my name on it. The documents lay out a handy step-by-step process to anonymise a judgement before publication, although some young people, including myself, still have reservations.

The main concern of this new guidance [which has been developed with judges, social workers, psychologists, and other organisations] is that the applying authority (LA) is still identified. During talks with the President we conceded that the applicant authority does need identifying for the purposes of accountability, although, where the applicant authority is small it may be enough to identify the subjects of the case.

As has been discussed in previous posts, some local identifiers may be unavoidable in order to provide accountability and transparency. It is important that the LA is identified as the action they are taking is in the name of the public, and ideally they are taking the best possible action for the child or young persons safety. Hopefully by applying our checklist all other possible identifiers will be removed making it harder to identify those subject to proceedings.

Previously the use of pseudonyms and initials was sporadic, with some judges using actual initials, others trying to use random pseudonyms, and others trying to be culturally sensitive with their pseudonyms. We decided that random initials would be best as these would avoid the possibility of identifying someone through small cultural groups, or, perhaps more importantly, their actual initials.

Another problem with identification is the use of dates of birth, again some judges used full dates, whilst others used ages alone. In most cases the age of a child or young person will be irrelevant so we decided that they should be completely removed where possible, where it is necessary to identify a date the year should be used, or where absolutely necessary the month and year. The same process should be applied to any other dates contained within a judgement.

Ethnic groups are tricky, and where necessary should be identified as vaguely as possible (eg “…of Eastern European origin…”). Religions should also be avoided where possible.

School issues should be redacted unless absolutely necessary in which case wide timescales should be applied in order to make identification as difficult as possible.

Where a professional, witness, or trial judge is involved [obviously a trail judge will be at this stage], it should be considered whether is it essential to name them. It may be necessary to identify someone involved in a case in order to criticise them, or hold them to account. It is difficult to decide if an expert should be identified in a case as they will need to be held to account, this can be beneficial for further similar cases to identify if they wish to use the expert and if their testimonials have been criticised.

Rather than run you through what details should be included in relation to fact finding I will just say that things should be kept as vague as possible and urge you to read the full document.

This has only been a brief overview of what the document contains, and there is still more to be said and done, including the President publishing official guidance. Our guidance has already been widely disseminated but I welcome you to share them further or ask questions.

Safeguarding, Privacy and Respect for Children and Young People (Part 7) and the ALC

Some of you may have been waiting for this next instalment with much bated breath but I assure you had has been worth the anticipation. During our last meeting with the President of the Family Court Division he asked us to look into the ability to identify the subjects of Family Court proceedings through information publicly available on the internet, the idea that the media may be allowed into private proceedings is concerning enough in itself without even thinking about the level of detail of which the courts publish themselves.

In our last peace of research we identified a number of young people involved in Family Court proceedings from cases set out on BAILII, what concerned us was not only the ability to identify them but also the level of unnecessary details included in the reports including the level of sexual abuse. Young peoples opposition to allowing the media into the Family arena was recorded as far back as 2007 in the Confidence and Confidentiality – Openness in Family Courts consultation paper which recommended more cases be placed on the publicly accessible site.

Unfortunately children and young people were largely ignored and we saw the implementation of the  Family Proceedings (Amendment) (No.2) Rules 2009 which first allowed the media into private hearings. It is perhaps sadder that Sir James Munby [President of the Family Court Division] announced that he is determined to  improve reporting of family proceedings to the Society of Editors in 2013 rather than at a judicial event where it would be clearer that he means for a more transparent system rather than risk the potential for a trial by media, as we have seen in many notable criminal cases.

Judges do not carry the burden of anonymization alone, when a judgement is handed down the solicitors and barristers have the opportunity to flag up any issues they may have, including that of the potential for jigsaw identification. Speaking at the ALC Conference His Honour Judge Bellamy urged members to challenge what is being passed down and invited members to read his own practice guidelines (of which he has sent me a copy, as they were in such great demand on the day they ran out of printed copies). It seems that we are not alone in our concerns over the potential of jigsaw identification with the judiciary writing recommendations within their local systems.

Before I end on the research I have been carrying out with NYAS and Dr Julia Brophy I would just like to mention that we are planning to meet with the President in January so we will hopefully have more to report then. In our meeting we plan to discuss a review into anonymization practices within law reporting and an evaluation of judgements already available on BAILII in which summaries of sensitive information may be provided and where it would be inappropriate to do so.

All of the research which has been done so far will no doubt be heavily featured in my dissertation, but there is much more out there and I have yet to do more than scratch the surface. The information and collaboration I have thus far received from the ALC has been invaluable and I am ever grateful.

I was privileged enough to stay for a second day of the ALC conference, funded by Bangor Universities Graduates of the Future Programme and NYAS, which helped me to research some of my dissertation and learn a great deal I would otherwise be ignorant to. The start of the conference was opened by Nicola Jones-King, who I was privileged enough to have lunch with later that day, she described the current court system as a sat-nav which has somehow been reprogrammed to avoid the obstructions that are the child’s views.

Nicola’s co-chair, Maud Davis, was incredibly impressive with her opening statement; although she admitted Nicola had to cover legal aid because it was just too depressing. Maud pointed to  recent case in the county court which allowed the identification of the father and one of their children, Poppi, but not the mother or either sibling due to a reporting restriction. It took Maud and Nicola a few moments in a caffè to identify the other members of the family through information contained within the judgement [of Cumbria County Council v M & F [2015]].

I have long been touting the words of Lord Justice Ward in ETK v News Group Newspapers Ltd [2011] EWCA Civ 439

“They are bound to be harmed by immediate publicity, both because it would undermine the family as a whole and because the playground is a cruel place where bullies feed on personal discomfort and embarrassment.”

But I have now found a new, if old favourite of Lord Eldon LC in Wellesley v Duke of Beaufort (1827) 2 Russ 1 at page 18

“It has always been the principle of this court, not to risk the incurring of damage to children which it cannot repair, but rather to prevent the damage being done.”

Which has been read and quoted in a recent judgement by Sir James Munby [Re: M (Children) [2015] EWHC 1433 (Fam)]. Given previous exchanges it may be pertinent to inform him of my interpretation of these words, as well as their relevance in this day and age, despite being over 180 years old they are still felt to ring true.

My experiences of the ALC were not only that of social media, I also had the pleasure of seeing Julie Selwyn, Professor of Child and Family Social Work, presenting her research Beyond the Adoption Order. There are many concerns over s.12 [Children and Families Act 2014] orders, one being the way in which children and young people are listened to but also the after care for those who care for them, and our age old friend, access to CAMHS. I am not going to dwell much on this section but I do advise looking through the research as it makes for interesting reading.

Our key note speaker was the heroine of the legal system, the greatly admired Brenda Hale, Baroness Hale of Richmond. Although one of the most notable people within the legal profession she did start with a somewhat joking exchange, during her introduction HHJ Bellamy joked that she was one of his favourite judges of the Supreme Court as she had not overturned one of his decisions to which she rebutted that there was an application for appeal to overturn one of his decisions to which she had not made a decision as to what to do.

With the conference being centred around a child’s journey through the court system it is probably no surprise that it was encompassed by the question “Are we nearly there yet?” This question has probably been heard on many an occasion, of which Lady Hale professed her husband would somewhat jokingly reply:

“Only another five hours. Now was that an act of cruelty or kindness; lying to a child or admitting that either the child had no right to know the answer, or that the adult also didn’t know.”

It is this that we were first drawn to ponder as parallels were drawn between the car journey, and the traditional mode of care proceedings. Lady Hale herself admitted that she was unsure if things were any different in the “brave new world of 26 week deadlines”. But where a child is involved in proceedings she had previously asked whether they should be seen and not heard, presumably provocatively.

It had been 12 years since she last addressed the ALC, in her last speech she had indeed found that children should be heard, and more often than they were then. As evidence we were directed to the work of Dr David Jones, in a paper he presented to the Presidents Interdisciplinary Conference September 2003.

The first reason presented was that of children wanting to communicate, if the lines of communication are not opened up to them at difficult times then sooner or later they will have wished that they could have had their say, and that someone had asked them to do so earlier.

“Second, that children have a right to know what is going on around them, and to understand important matters about themselves. Third, children need protection from present or likely harm, so they need to be able to tell people about this, and people need to be able to pick up on the signs and ask them about it. Lastly children need protection from the harm which may come to them quicker if they are kept in ignorance of, or are unable to talk about, important matters in their lives.”

Courts undoubtedly cannot treat children as the object of proceedings, they are both witnesses of the facts and must be treated as a party to decision making process about their futures, this is reiterated under Article 12 of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child. When Lady Hale herself was involved in the Family Division [1994-1999] they were very reluctant to involve children in the proceedings in either capacity.

The Children Act 1989 introduced an express requirement to take into account the ascertainable wishes and feelings of the child, but there was scepticism as to the value of those views. In Taking A Longer View Of Contact, Jane Fortin stated:

“There is an obvious temptation to discount the views of relatively young children – on the basis that they are too young to have any real opinions, that any views they express are not informed by any real insight into their situation, or that their ideas are shaped by those with whom they spend most of their time.”

This was felt to be true of child abduction cases, on the grounds that they were always bound to side with the abducting parent, although Fortin’s study of separated children when they grew up gave no support for the suggestion that their views were unduly influence by the parent with whom they were living. Some felt that you were more like to get sense from a younger, than an older child, one saying:

“When they get to where they are 13 they’ll come up with silly ideas, I think to suite them. To play, to get out of it as much as they can where the younger ones come up with more sense. The younger ones are cleverer than you think, and their the ones with the most sensible ideas.”

Unfortunately the procedural rules in support of children taking part left it to professionals to communicate with the child and pass on that communication to the court without any formal structure or training. Private law proceedings would traditionally be done through CAFCASS Reporting Officers, whilst care proceedings would be through the child’s guardian [which could potentially be an interpenetration of their own views].

It may be postulated that part 12.14.3 of the Family Procedure Rules discourages members of the judiciary from having a child in court at the time of the hearing as they are much stronger than previous iterations stating that proceedings WILL continue in the absence of a child as long as the child is represented by a children’s guardian or solicitor.

“She is young for her 13 years, and for most of the hearing she seemed preoccupied, and who can blame her with her toys and her colouring books.”

Waite J in Re C (A Minor)(Care: Child’s Wishes) [1993] 1 FLR 832

Whilst the case of Re C (A Minor)(Care: Child’s Wishes) was concluding the judge asked the girls guardian whether they felt it had been a good idea for them to be there, to which they said it had been a good idea and although she may not have taken in much of what was going on, but at least she felt she knew that decisions were being made about her when she was there. Unfortunately the judge thought otherwise.

Lady Hale remarked that her husband, who occasionally sits in the public benches in Supreme Court, reports that some of the junior lawyers sitting behind counsel, apparently industriously typing notes on their laptops are in fact playing solitaire or doing their emails. So what damage does allowing a child who wants to be there from being there? Not allowing a child to be there when they want to seems a backwards step, Scotland allow them to be there and Germany allows for children to attend at least some of the time according to European Court cases.

When Lady Hale joined the Royal Courts of Justice she was told by a senior Family Division Judge that the reason for chambers being directly behind the courtroom was so that in wardship proceedings the judge had to be close to the courtroom so that he could see the child in his room. This shows how much the assumption has changed in recent years from the child being a key part of proceedings to merely the subject of a case and back again.

Before the Children Act Magistrates were told that they had no power to meet with children in private law proceedings, and yet they were seeing them all the time in public law proceedings.

“At its heart lies the conflict between advancing the welfare of the child and upholding the child’s freedom of expression and participation. Unless we in this jurisdiction are to fall out of step with similar societies as they safeguard Article 12 rights [article 12 of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child], we must, in the case of articulate teenagers, accept that the right to freedom of expression and participation outweighs the paternalistic judgement of welfare.”

Mabon v Mabon and Ors [2005] EWCA Civ 634

It is important to realise that things have changed drastically from days gone by, when visiting Holborn High Court, HHJ John Altman informed us of a case where a seat was set at his bench for a young person to sit next to him during the hearing of his case. Although a progressive judge this shows that the judiciary is changing and more weight is being given to the independent thoughts and feelings of children and young people when decisions are being made about their lives.

In two cases from Germany the European Court on Human Rights decided that there had not been sufficient procedural protection for the fathers right to respect for his family life, with his child, when he had been denied contact. In one case the court had not interviewed a five year old child personally because the expert had advised against it. In the other, the court had relied on the strongly expressed views of a 13 year old child without getting an up-to-date psychological report.

Although the cases were around insufficient protection of the fathers rights, it can, and probably should, be interpreted as insufficient protection of the children’s rights. The cases ended up in the Grand Chamber which held that it would be going too far to say that the national court was always obliged to hear directly from the child or to have an up-to-date psychological report, although it was clear that one or the other was a good idea. These cases lead the senior judiciary to consider that there may be policy issues to consider within our own jurisdiction.

Lady Hale argued that there were five advantages to a child meeting with a judge. First, that the judge will be able to see them as a real person rather than  the object of other peoples disputes and concerns. Secondly, that the court may learn more of the child’s wishes and feelings than at second, or third hand. Thirdly, the child will feel respected, valued and involved as long as they are not coerced or obliged to make choices of which they do not wish to make. Fourthly, it presents an opportunity to help the child understand the rules [of a court order]. Finally, parents may be reassured that the court has been actively involved rather than just rubber stamping professionals decisions.

I realise I have spoken a lot on Lady Hale’s speech and so I invite you to read the documents linked at the bottom of this article for more information regarding the remainder f her speech on expert evidence from young people and the views of the Family Justice Young People’s Board.

I would like to give you a few quotes from one lawyer who I spoke with later in the day, and I honestly wish I had gotten his name as it would be useful and interesting to talk to him again:

“The idea that the agony of our children should be put onto the Sun newspaper, the Mirror, or anywhere else is just sickening, utterly unbelievable and as far as I can see the only person pushing it is the President. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that many judges I’ve heard have expressed horror at that idea; and it is the President who’s pushing it, and the President has a history of involvement with the media which I think is extremely worrying that he is now, apparently alone, in pushing for greater publicity, grater use of our children’s and families pain to sell newspapers.”

Although Lady Hale was not able to respond to the question he put in its entirety she did state that she was fascinated to learn about the work being done with children and young people on what they think of publicity, and the complexities of proper privacy being respected. She admitted that it is not as simple as just publishing things on BAILII and the judiciary need this pointing out, she also congratulated us [NYAS, the ALC and the Researchers] on what we have pointed out.

I am not going to go into detail on the Parents in Dispute session other than to say that psychologists are looking at working with divorcing couples to create a parental alliance and work on their issues without discussing the past. The parents work alone for three sessions with two different psychologists before coming together [where possible,] for another three sessions. The idea of separate psychologists is to stop one or another from become fatigued and encompassed by any negativity, in theory they will be able to help one another if they should run into difficulty as well as the subjects.

The last speaker I am going to talk about is an expert witness who provided an education you will not find for a lawyer anywhere else. Professor Archie J Malcolm gave us a lesson on histology and pathology relating to young children and babies. In many cases involving the death of a baby a cranial fissure is mistaken for a fracture, compared to an adult, or older child, with calcified bones it takes a lot more force to fracture the skull or ribs as the periosteal reaction is still in its infancy and cartilage is somewhat in the place of bone.

Where there is a fracture it is dated by its place in the healing process, at fist instance there will be a collection of fibrin which will bind with with platelets forms a hemostatic plug or clot over a wound site, after six to eighteen hours a polymorph will appear before macrophages invade to fight off infection within one to three days. A stoma will appear after two to five days, an osteoblast within five to eight, an osteoclast within five to ten before fracture callus in the final ten or more days.

As I have already mentioned, a young child’s bones are far more pliable than an adults due to its structure being mainly cartilage, this means that to break a babies rib would be a non accidental injury. In one study only 3 of 947 infants suffered rib fractures after receiving CPR. If a child has posterior rib fractures then they have likely been squeezed too hard as a fall or blow to the back will not cause that much damage, the only issue is an anterior x-ray will not show these injuries as the front of the rib cage will hide the back.

In general a metaphyseal fracture is likely to be caused by violent swinging from the forearm or ankle, this is where there is damage at the interface of a long bone between the cartilage and hard bone. Common places are around the knee from severe accidents, it can also occur at the top of the femur, ankle and elbow; the only problem with identify such an injury is that it will take about three days to appear on an x-ray.

There are different types of fracture, these are the transverse [snap or bow to the bone], spiral [rotation or twist], comminution[high velocity impact], and greenstick [a break to one side of the cortex only as the bone is still flexible]. There were a few gory images to accompany Prof. Malcolm’s presentation although he had removed the worst and instead included anecdotal evidence of brains being crushed, spines being severed and much more besides.

As the last session I was able to attend it was certainly an eye opening experience, if not different and somewhat horrifying what some people can do. If I could listen to a similar presentation again I definitely would for the educational side; although you have to ask if some did not have a perverse fascination with the cross between the psyche, law and medical horrors he had to speak of.

 

Guidelines for Children and Young People Giving Evidence

Final Report of the Children and Vulnerable Witnesses Working Group

Safeguarding, Privacy and Respect for Children and Young People (Part 5)

As you know we’ve been working on stopping the courts from granting greater access for the media to the family courts, if you are not sure what has happened so far just look back at my earlier posts.

So this time we had the opportunity to address the Association of Lawyers for Children at their Annual Conference, this is a collection of amazing minds who work to better the lives of children and young people including a cross section of judges, solicitors and barristers; and I have to say there were a number of faces I recognised from working with NYAS in the past.

We gave an over view of our findings from the consultation, ultimately What the hell were you thinking?! If you pardon the paraphrasing. I chose to describe the balance of articles 8 [right to a private and family life] and 10 [freedom of expression and information], it was such a daunting prospect to be lecturing on the law to professionals in the field although I did put in a dig about the English lacking behind on implementing the UNCRC.

Following us vocalising all of our concerns around greater access it was time for me to shine as a digital technologies consultant:

I began by highlighting the attempts various governments have taken to remove WikiLeaks and the fact that Julian Assange is still living in exile with all of his articles intact. A second website I felt it was important to discuss was that of SilkRoad [an illegal online marketplace], and that we actually only access about 10% of the internet whilst the rest is known as the dark web, now SilkRoad was removed by authorities and 2.0 emerged just weeks later highlighting that information can be transferred and re-uploaded without much hassle. The third website I discussed was that of No-IP.com, twenty three of their domains were seized by Microsoft [affecting 1.8 million websites and devices] for infecting visitors devices with various malware, these domains have since been returned with no real safeguards from the situation repeating itself.

With technology it is important to know where advances are being made, with DNS providers now providing switching for free it is easier to host websites. When a server is taken out the service will now switch servers so that the website is not down for a noticeable amount of time. A lot of the time when a website is taken out by an organisation they take out the DNS (Domain Name System) meaning that the server and all of its information is still accessible if another domain is pointing to it.

After discussing the technological implications of websites it is now important to look at the changes to technology regarding Google Spain v AEPD and Mario Costeja González. Since the decision Google has received 167,865 take down requests concerning 569,993 URLs, out of this only 199,263 (41.8%) of URLs were removed; out of these the UK alone has submitted 21,679 requests concerning 74,137 URLs out of which only 22,538 (37%) of URLs were removed.

Here are a few reasons people requested take downs from the UK:

A media professional requested that we remove 4 links to articles reporting on embarrassing content he posted to the Internet. We did not remove the pages from search results.

An individual asked us to remove links to articles on the internet that reference his dismissal for sexual crimes committed on the job. We did not remove the pages from search results.

A doctor requested we remove more than 50 links to newspaper articles about a botched procedure. Three pages that contained personal information about the doctor but did not mention the procedure have been removed from search results for his name. The rest of the links to reports on the incident remain in search results.

A public official asked us to remove a link to a student organization’s petition demanding his removal. We did not remove the page from search results.

We received a request from a former clergyman to remove 2 links to articles covering an investigation of sexual abuse accusations while in his professional capacity. We did not remove the pages from search results.

Some of the information which was removed, was only removed from search results on Google and is still searchable from other search engines and the websites on which they were posted; there is also nothing stopping more links from emerging at a later date, or even the contend from a removed link from being re-posted at another address.

The difference with Google’s removals is that it is links from their own services and the content is still out there and very much available through other services. Out of the above reasons you will see that one is actually for the removal to a link containing information they themselves had posted, this is information they lost control over and was not able to remove so instead they tried to request that it was less searchable.

We will be meeting with the President of the Family Court Division again in December to discuss the developments since our last meeting and where things will progress in he future. As usual keep an eye out for the next installment.

NYAS Digital Technology Consultant

Today is not one of my usual meetings or blog posts, rather it is the beginning of my career as NYAS Digital Technology Consultant [and record of the day for personal reflection] where I will be training and supporting staff alongside the Digital Ambassadors* to improve their services and promotion.

The past few months you will be aware that I have been involved in a consultation regarding greater access for media to the Family Courts, this is something I strongly oppose along with many other children and young people which is why my first real task was to research the best platform for us to host a petition calling on the President of the Family Court Division to halt any changes to access and to urge parliament to hold public consultations/ parliamentary debates taking into consideration the views of young people. [Keep an eye on this blog for a link to the petition.]

Now I have promoted one of my key interests we also had to go over what funding was available to us (this would have to cover training, publicity materials, stationary, travel, coordination, etc.) along with how best to recruit new members. The idea of the Digital Ambassadors* is for them to help maintain and update our social media [Facebook and Twitter] along with contributing to a regularly updated blog on the young persons’ section of the website.

Along with the social media aspect, we also want to develop a mobile application so children and young people can get information and in contact with NYAS services if they so wish. Again we have to decide the best way to market this with some young people, but the ground works are being set so they can get involved straight away rather than having to wait for agreements to be made with companies.

On top of this we also intend to train young people on developing videos for our [proposed] YouTube channel. Training will be provided for all aspects of the project where it is wanted which will enhance our young peoples’ CVs as we can provide them a certificate detailing what they have been involved with.

To recruit new young people we discussed a variety of ideas including weekly competitions where a subject would be set for the blog, young people could contribute for the chance to win a prize, and we would then tell them all about the project and offer further interaction. We are still in discussions with how to best get the initial message of the competition and project out there and what to offer as prizes but a lot was decided on the day.

*England

MEGA Young People!

So today was the first meeting of the North Wales MEGA (Ministerial Expert Group on Advocacy [for young people]) where we will be discussing the various aspects of advocacy and what changes we think should be implemented. Now this is a pilot reference group for North Wales, and as such only consisted of Chris (Voices From Care), Anne (Senior Civil Servant), Mike (Chair of MEGA), a member of NYAS staff, myself and two other young people.

Essentially this group will decide the future of  Tros Gynnal, NYAS and Action for Children who are [at the time of writing] the only advocacy providers in Wales for children and young people. In South Wales a group has already been established which has discussed some of the issues coming up along with providing a role reversal for Gwenda Thomas (previous Deputy Minister for Social Services) and Jeff Cuthbert (previous Deputy Minister for Skills) to experience the world from the point of view of a young person.

When you are a young person first signing on, if you are unfortunate enough to be in that situation, it was felt that job centers should be able to advise on an advocate who will be able to in turn advise the staff on a young persons predicament (such as not having parental contact) as well as advise a young person on why they may not be eligible for certain support they may otherwise just be refused [with no explanation]. This was actually piloted within a few days at a Job Center Plus. They may also sign post to services such as Meic where short term support may be required.

The group has also undertaken a review of Meic, this has included secret shoppers who will phone/text/IM/email with an issue and see what they actually think of the responses received. This is something I have taken part in as part of the South Wales team and it did improve the service to an extent. Meic is an independent advocacy service where anyone up to the age of 25 can inquire for support or signposting to a service specific to their predicament.

One thing the North and South felt passionately was that training needs to be provided to all professionals involved in the care system or with children on advocacy and what it can actually do. Mike [and a team of experts] has worked to calculate how much LAs (Local Authorities) should be spending on advocacy, it came out at around £400,000 although research shows that around a third of LAs are spending less than half that amount and North Wales has cut it’s contract from £240,000 to £100,000 which is worrying to say the least.

Now as well as these problems children and young people are not informed of their rights until it is too late, there is a lack of knowledge for those entering, transitioning or even just involved in the care system; as a group we believe this is unacceptable and there should be more support available and reminders of rights.

When a child first enters into foster care they can feel nervous, or even not allowed to get a snack from the fridge so it is important they know their rights as well as feel comfortable and have a consistent figure they feel they can trust and turn to at any point in their time in care.

This is just a brief overview of our first meeting which was run on a ‘play it by ear’ basis, next time we are hoping for a few more people and plan to link up with the South Wales team within a few months.

Safeguarding, Privacy and Respect for Children and Young People (Part 4)

Finally the meeting with the President of the Family Court Division, Sir James Munby has come about and it is time to get some answers to pressing questions although I expect some answers to skirt around the question, now I am no Paxman but I think me and my three sisters in crime along with the brilliant Dr Julia Brophy got some decent answers given that we only had around an hour to get all of our questions answered.

Due to time restraints we skipped over the light hearted and polite ‘What are your views and experiences?’ kind of questions and went straight into the harder hitting why has the views of young people been ignored so far. Now in true political style he outlined how there is a difference between listening, accepting and agreeing with young people, or consumers of the judicial system which I agree; but there is also a difference between ticking boxes and acting upon the views, wishes and feelings of you consumers. The President outlined that he was keen to canvas young people more to gain their views and opinions, and that it had not been done enough in the past. I think we can all agree with him that no decision on transparency will be unanimously agreed upon, but I am not so sure about his views that half will always be upset with any decisions made.

In 2010 the government had promised a consultation with young people before moving forward with any more work on allowing the media greater access, the President explained that the legislation had been passed by a previous administration and it was his predecessor that had failed to act. The legislation had apparently not been enacted and was repealed before coming into force and that a lot of the previous work was done in private.

Now our next question may seem a rather contentious point, but we wanted to know if he had considered the consequences of media exposure for young people who have not consented and may be affected in the future. The President expressed how he had probably passed more judgements on this matter than many other judges and that decisions were always made whilst weighing up the immediate and future impact the exposure may have. The whole question came back to the fact that he felt anonymity could be achieved and that redacting too much information would just make a case insignificant ramblings (my words, not his).

Now in a tangential manner we went onto the consequences and he stated that there is no more unkind a person in the world than a bully in the playground who wants to be nasty. I think these words are something on which we can all agree, which is why more information needs to be redacted in order to illuminate the treat of jigsaw-identification and the consequences there of. With the access we have to information on one another through the internet this is easier than ever, I took the time to explain that identification can be made through meta data in images as well as their linked articles or social networking pages online, after this and some discussion on the internet as a form of media Sir James Munby proclaimed that ‘We have to try and do something about the web’ to which I giggled to myself thinking of all the recent discussion on freedom of the press and ranting’s of Jeff Jarvis (City University of New York, Professor of Journalism) on regulation of the internet.

To try and give our new friend some alternates to greater access for the media we discussed court open days and alike to which he replied that there are all sorts we could be doing and that some local judges are taking the initiative to organise court open days and such. His argument is that these are not accessible enough and that people get their information from social media and the news, to this I mused ‘Hasn’t he heard of eBooks?’ and the endless times the death of print media has been discussed over recent years, was it I or him who was missing something here? I mean there is more to be discussed later on but he’s missed our point.

Next was my turn to point out what had happened with Mirror Group and the phone hacking scandals which he must have seen coming at some point; can we actually trust the media with access to the most vulnerable people in society at probably one of their most vulnerable point in life? Apparently he believes it could be strictly controlled what the media print and that the threat of two years imprisonment for contempt of court is enough to keep the scape goat of an editor from printing anything identifiable or unethical.

I had to interject at this point and steal my colleague’s forthcoming thunder by asking if he thought these penalties were enough when they have potentially life damaging consequences. It may seem a shock but his response was blunt that they knew they could get away with hacking and this was because they were in bed with the police. Now the media have been allowed to attend family court proceedings since April 2009, this is something that the President is unaware of the MOJ (Ministry of Justice) monitoring, or the consequences there of.

Now to our knowledge no one has been harmed by these changes so far, and there are more cases reported on BAILII than ever before which is free to access globally. Now this being said he did admit that he had read about a judgement he had passed in a paper, but he had not recognised the case because it had been so mangled by the press and they had the wrong date. He claimed that it was most probably derived from the BAILII website, so doesn’t that prove our point that the media cannot be trusted?

Pointing out the gaffs of the media is easy enough, so we asked what he thought about people not knowing how to use their security settings appropriately on social media sites and the consequences there of to which we could have seen his answer coming a mile away that there is an endless struggle to ensure they [young people] are not identified and that Judges ensure that certain information is not published such as involved LA’s (Local Authorities) and particular institutions.

To this we circled back to the media breaking the rules and tried to drive home that once something is online, it’s online. If you take out a server, another can pop up within minutes. If you take out a publisher, someone abroad and outside of the jurisdiction of the UK can continue their work. He did not seem to get the fact that the web cannot be redacted and once the damage is done it can be permanent. No sanction can compensate for the loss of a job, friendships or even the cause of, or exacerbation there of mental health conditions.

Our final question, other than a quick photo op, was would he like his most intimate and vulnerable aspects of life spread across the tabloids with no control over what is printed and where. The answer is none of us would, but then he went on to defend his view on the matter of media in the family courts by stating that there are two irrevocable conflicts, the interests of the child and family and that we cannot run a private justice system where the state are taking peoples children away.

I agree with the two conflicts although is the media the right way to do this? We cannot run a system where everything is private, so we already have public access to BAILII judgements which are anonymised and we know that judges cannot really sensor the media.

Now I am proud of the final statement I left him to mill over in his mind, which is a quote from the Court of Appeal regarding media access:

They [the family] are bound to be harmed by immediate publicity, both because it would undermine the family as a whole and because the playground is a cruel place where bullies feed on personal discomfort and embarrassment.’ – LJ Ward (ETK v News Group Newspapers Ltd [2011] EWCA Civ 439)

We are due to meet again to discuss things further in December.

Safeguarding, Privacy and Respect for Children and Young People (Part 3)

As you may be aware from recent posts, his Right Honorable Judge Altman invited myself and several others from NYAS to inspect his court, this is in no way a comprehensive or official report but rather my musings on the day and my personal opinions unless otherwise stated.

So I arrived early, as I had spent the night in a hotel around the corner, awaiting the arrival of my three companions for the day and partners in mischief. I wandered the foyer aimlessly for over half hour and was not approached once, except for when a security guard went for some fresh air and asked if I was okay in passing; now it may have been because I was smartly dressed and had a suitcase and bag that they thought (rightly may I add) that I was there in some sort of official capacity, if however I had been a young person this would be unacceptable. After a while our escort for the day cottoned on to who I was and we waited for the others.

When everyone arrived we had a brief hello before walking outside and pretending we were normal people there for a proceeding, due to my milling about I knew where the court allocations where but there was no clear indication and only a small A4 sized piece of paper indicating to have your ‘Court Case number ready”. There was no real indication as to where you should go or what you should do at this point.

We proceeded to the security check point where we walked back and forth, as security watched, looking as lost as a sheep in the mince sauce isle at the supermarket. After a while I ensured everyone was aware of what to do with their mobiles, and that they had done so before proceeding to put our things through the x-ray machine and walk through the metal detector without prompts. The member f security sat at the machine (playing on their phone) was telling us what items had to be checked although you could not hear them properly and the guard at the check in desk had to shout over several times to double check.

Once that kerfuffle was done with we were finally faced with some blunt instructions in black and white on a pin board, and another board with cases next to it which we stared at blankly painfully waiting for somebody to ask if we needed help. Eventually we walked over to the reception desk where the receptionist very helpfully looked up our case number and told us exactly how to get to our designated court room, as well as where the amenities were (although this could have been because they were on the way through).

When we arrived on our floor there was no one to greet us, instead you were greeted by lawyers having to take meetings in the corridors because there were no consultation rooms available, children sitting on the floor and a rather uninviting office for the PSU (Personal Support Unit). As you turned you were faced with a daunting door for the CAB (Citizens Advice Bauru) before finding the corridor to an unmanned usher’s desk, and to that how is a child or young person supposed to know what an usher is or what they do?

As we stood in front of the desk the usher arrived, not in robes or a suit but rather casual attire with no indication as to their role. This man may well have been someone off the street who wanted to play for the day for all we knew, at least in a criminal court you could think ‘Oh look there’s another person dressed as Batman ready to help!’ Trust me I have seen lawyers amusing themselves with that one. Anyway the usher told us that our court had been reallocated to court 1 on the ground floor, but not where on the ground floor or that we had to sign in with the usher down there. When we finally got to the ushers desk we had to be explained the attendance sheet, as a lay young person you would just be completely perplexed by the legalese.

Finally we got escorted into the court where the allusive Right Honourable Judge was sitting and awaiting to explain what we were there to do, and more to the point what they intended to do with both our qualitative and quantitative data. All of the courts had nice natural lighting or were in large rooms with the best artificial lighting that could be fitted allowing for a more open and less oppressive vibe to the building.

Now I have heard of cases before from kind judges who allow young people into their courts similar to the one he allayed, whereby a young person was in the middle of a case deciding where the young person should live. The judge actually instructed for a chair to be set beside his so that the young person had direct input and was able to hear the case. Although an unusual one I think that acts like these leave the young person feeling empowered and listened to as they sit above the court. Now in cases of giving evidence video linking is available, even from other courts which would mean that a young person would not necessarily have to face those involved and could be made more comfortable than having to appear in the court itself.

At this point I pretty much gave up on taking notes on the paper we was provided and resorted to my trusty NYAS notepad. We were taken outside of the courts to view the new proposed entrance for young people around the corner so they did not have to face anyone involved in their case who they did not want to or who may be intimidating, which I think we can all agree is the best for all involved. Now as of yet there is no clear signage, bags will have to be intrusively searched (unless an x-ray is installed as well as a new metal detector), the young person will have to ring a buzzer and speak on an intercom waiting for security to arrive and there are no toilets which may be the only thing on their mind after a long journey.

As we entered the proposed rout there was a plush red carpet, well lit corridor and all the back entrance to each of the ground floor courts. Unfortunately as we turned the corner this beautiful façade was killed by a dark and oppressive stairwell, with a cramped and dull lift leading to the fourth floor where they were most likely to be going.

Now we had already been to this floor to try and find our first allocated court (21), but we had not seen the consultation rooms which all read ‘ENGAGED’ even though most were left derelict, and I use this word purposely as they have pale walls and dull uniform furniture and each looked as if it had been evacuated in a hurry.

We left this section to then see the proposed contact centre with the working title ‘Building Blocks’ which sounds more like a barrier than NYAS own ‘Butterfly Room’. I do invite you to get in contact with a new suggestion for a name until early November 2014. These rooms were not yet made to measure but we had a sense for the plans, being the only rooms with any colour and (although needing more comfortable and modern) laid back seating. Whilst in these rooms we discussed that there would need to be age appropriate amenities, a kitchenette had already been discussed but we though age appropriate toys and media would be necessary as well as access to the internet and perhaps some sensory toys for the less able bodied and babies.

Just before we retired to the Judges dining room where we were waited on hand and foot by the judiciary we got to meet with Anne Dillon, a barrister and member of the trustee board of contact centres. She asked for our feedback and we told her what I have already said as well as suggestions for televisions, computers, consoles and other modern conveniences many of us have come to take for granted.

Now in the dining room we were met by a few district and circuit judges, some of whom took an instant liking to us and were keen to get our insight and tell us about what they do and wanted out of our unique visit. It quickly turned from several convocations into a round table discussion where we gave a quick summary off what we had observed and the potential problems, one circuit judge even asked me to provide a template idea for them of what I thought should be in an introductory letter such as where best to get a drink or food before going into the court as they do not have any real amenities other than water fountains which I had not spotted and any signage for seemed completely absent.

The final part of this saga was when one of the Judges who had just presided over a case involving a young person who was receiving services from NYAS took us to his chambers before we tried to track down the young person to get their perception of the court and what they had just been through (with their permission of course). Unfortunately this young person had already left and so it was our turn to retrieve our belongings from security and meet with Dr Julia Brophy before our meeting with Sir James Munby which shall be discussed in my next post.

Young and Vulnerable in Wales in Danger

Keith Towler (Childrens Commissioner for Wales) has long been thought of as the childrens’ champion in Wales from his work on the UNCRC (United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child) and introduction of the Rights of Children and Young Persons (Wales) Measure 2011 to the work he has encouraged with the Flying Start programme; this leaves the question in my mind of why the proposed cuts to funding of services for vulnerable children and young people is even being discussed?

Now the work of the commissioner is not exactly well known, recently I took part in a consultation on what children and young people knew of his work, and although they knew of him, they had no idea what he actually did except going around and meeting young people. It seems at the moment that his position is all about taking the credit where the Welsh Government (WG) are succeeding and to point the finger where they are struggling.

Catriona Williams, chief executive of Children in Wales, has already voiced the urges to keep an eye on the spending on vulnerable children in Wales in order to match supply and demand LAC (looked after children), the disabled and abused are most vulnerable and critically in need of a variety of services. In Wales there are over five thousand looked after children in comparison to just three thousand a few years ago. It begs the question what resources have been allocated to their lives and what quality of life are they actually getting for that.

A few posts ago I voiced a few of the opinions which had come out of a consultation regarding LAC in mental health facilities, i reality this new sway of cuts is going to mean that provisions they need will just fall by the wayside and things will inevitably worsen. If there is no, or reduced support for foster placements, which are already lacking, this means that there will be even less provisions and housing for children and young people who no longer live with family. In articles I have read they have concentrated on the more every day occurrences we may see such as a lack of accessibility whilst barely mentioning the greater impact these cuts will actually have.

Now the BBC have actually mentioned the Commissioners Annual Report (2014) which has suggestions of the greater issues, but it doesn’t actually go into detail for perhaps some ethical reasons. A cut to our already struggling mental health services means that more children and young people will have to move out of area in order to receive some basic care provisions, potentially removing them from their family home. Children living in poverty or with disabilities will further be negated from the opportunities of more able bodied individuals, and with the highest rates of poverty in the United Kingdom is this even acceptable.

Now under Article 12 of the UNCRC children and young people have the right to an opinion and for it to be listened to and taken seriously in matters affecting them, and as the WG has to give due regard to the UNCRC in all aspects of decision making under the aforementioned measure why hasn’t Keith Towler and his team been fighting for more children and young people to be involved in budgetary matters? It may be boring, but the more mature and involved are more than willing to protect the best interests of their peers and understand the need for other services.

If cuts go ahead what is to happen to children and young people who have no choice but to remain in houses with domestic violence, because although skirted around in every article the reality is that if you manage to take them out of that situation you still have nowhere to put them and no support network with a reduction in funding. It has already been statistically proven that those in care, who are moved place to place, from school to school do not have much of a chance. Now that is statistics and I can tell you now you would be shocked if you knew what some of these individuals go on to achieve in their lives, and the change they affect for others in similar situations.

I can not really comment on immigration or asylum as I have not gone through it, and to my knowledge I do not know anyone who has. Unlike a certain news paper I do not feel I should comment on what doesn’t affect me or I have no knowledge of, but I will say that these services too will be affected in a devastating manner. Also what happened to that money from the sale of the Royal Mail, where’s Wales cut gone and where will the sale of Euro Star go? There are pockets of money all about the place which if reallocated properly would stop us having to make these cuts. Whilst we’re making cuts lets make them to MP/AM expenses and pay, although the former are much worse these used to be positions of working men with a good altruistic ethic. Also lets make cuts to the CEO’s/Presidents/VP’s or what ever they want to call themselves (money grabbing idiots) of publicly owned, or part owned organisations.

Should the most vulnerable really pay for those well off and in power to continue their oppression? Maybe we should take up the view of socialists and try to eliminate the gap between the bourgeois and the proletariat in order to exhume some kind of equality. To hell with all the current state of misogyny and misandry, rich and poor. That is what got us in this mess in the first place.

Safeguarding, Privacy and Respect for Children and Young People (Part 2)

So in my last post I negated to insert a link to the consultation which you can find here: goo.gl/VGY8X7

Now as time is approaching to meet with Sir James Munby next Thursday, President of the Family Court Division and I think a few questions need to be answered about what undoubtedly will be a breach of a child or young persons Article 8 (ECHR) and Article 16 (UNCRC) rights; that being the right to privacy.

Before we get to that can we in fact trust the press with access to such delicate and intimate details of people family lives? We already know the travesty which amounted from Mirror Group’s (Trinity Mirror’s) actions including the hacking of Milly Dowler’s phone which was a disgrace, and seemingly wide spread practice, within the organisation at least. I am not trying to blanket term anyone but I have found that many people are unaware of how to properly use their security settings on social media which could lead to some journalist publishing something which was not intended for public audience, or which may put a certain spin on their story or lead to the identification, or be it wrongful, or a child or young person who is or has been involved in family court proceedings.

The rights of the press to report on issues has always been a contentious matter, and in fact I think it is only right that we bring up the following quote

“They are bound to be harmed by immediate publicity, both because it would undermine the family as a whole and because the playground is a cruel place where bullies feed on personal discomfort and embarrassment.”

LJ Ward in ETK v News Group Newspapers Ltd [2011] EWCA Civ 439

Now this case is referring to the right of an injunction for an individual who had committed an infidelity whilst married with children. In my mind it seems pretty clear that this would also refer to any family court proceedings as such proceedings would already put the family under great strain and undermine what is thought of as a normal family by social norms. Unnecessary stress is not needed at what is potentially the most stressful time in a child or young persons life, nor is the publication of their most intimate details, as is said above the playground can be a cruel place, but so too can be places  of work or the extended family itself.

Now that you have the idea of the lack of respect from the printed media consider this, what good is a fine or imprisonment to a child who has been socially scared and may be prejudiced against because of something they had little or no control over? Sure it is a nice little deterrent but it is of no comfort when the damage is already done and irreversible.

In 2010 the Government promised to consult further and directly with young people before moving forward on this issue; to my knowledge this has not happened and the outraged views of children and young people have thus far been ignored. If the whole idea of greater access is to make the courts more transparent surely the further use of information leaflets, case studies, books, on-line guidance for general audiences, and family court open days used or expanded rather than tearing at the vulnerable to fill a few tabloids and not really educate the masses.

Now these are just a few quick thoughts resulting from a lecture, and I still have to meet with Sir James Munby and attend the Association of Lawyers for Children Conference so keep your eyes peeled for more information.